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we're tired of the mundane passionless

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careers we've been shuffled into as a

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result of this orchestrated debt-based

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system of rule

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and the stranglehold on education

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entertainment by cold soulless

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people yes we are frustrated yes

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we are tired and we reject the

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pre-approved tranquilizers that are

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monday night football

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and an ice cold budweiser we have to

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stop hiding

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cherry popper 420 username

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let the world see that the resistance is

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strong and society is changing

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there was a time to be anonymous but

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that time has passed

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and so the higher side chats would like

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to present conspiracies as the dawning

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of this new paradigm in the uniform of

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the revolution

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because bold fashion should mean more

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than some celebrity meat dresser frappe

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and a silly pink polo

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conspiracy redefines bold fashion as

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having the balls to project socially

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uncomfortable and unpopular truths from

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all [\h__\h] day conspirates.net

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let them know that you know bold designs

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for trouble times

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the nation through a series of radio

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broadcasts known as the fireside

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chats his aim was to reassure the common

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man that our society would recover from

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for a new era of worldly frustration we

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offer a fresh conversation

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here we go again people drinking a

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little drink smoking a little smoke from

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san diego i'm greg carlwood and today

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we're going to discuss one of the most

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interesting and mysterious phenomenons

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up the magical sleeve of the universe

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and that my friends is time

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as we march along the seemingly

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inevitable one-way street of cradle to

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grave one can't help but wonder about

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the nature of time

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and the rules and properties it operates

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on and whether or not these things may

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be alterable

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if your fingers on the pulse of

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government black ops technology are the

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cutting edge scientific experiments

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going on the answer is resounding maybe

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which i've always grown up to assume is

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basically a yes

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but today's guest might have a more

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educated analysis than yours truly which

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isn't saying much

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but she is the author of this book is

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from the future

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journey through portals relativity

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wormholes and other adventures and time

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travel

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she's also the host of the ever popular

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dreamland radio show

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spent 15 years as a mufon ufo

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investigator

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and has authored other books such as

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11-11 the time prompt phenomenon

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2013 end of days or a new beginning and

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science how new discoveries in quantum

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physics and new science may explain

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paranormal phenomenon

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her name is marie d jones and i think

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it's about time we get this party

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started marie say hello to the people

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well hello there thank you for having me

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on of course thanks for coming but

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what a background marie jesus uh you've

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so many interesting things but first let

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being part of an organization will

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really get me any closer to having a

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i loved it because i i've been out for a

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the writing was my new approach to you

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know some of these anomalies but

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phenomenon was really sort of

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40s and what have you but it was just

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i ran i was part of a huge buffon

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organization in los angeles but when i

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ufos or had you know some type of an

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people that were talking about

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time that we didn't really know what to

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hypnotherapists under his wing and

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with abductees so i had the real good

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fortune of being

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nuts and bolts ufo reports you know

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lights in the sky would have to this

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in distress because they didn't know

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man i mean that is a a theme that has

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looking into the conspiracy stuff that

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definitely seems to you know it gets

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stranger the more you look into it but

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uh as nick references connected to

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almost all the paranormal

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associating commonalities with with

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time in mufon ever like warrant you the

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chance to see something interesting

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this is what's so funny because you know

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county and it went on for a couple of

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identify it they looked really bizarre

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the san olivo hills area which are now

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very much built up there was nothing

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and it was dusk and i out of the corner

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of my eye saw something

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and it was four lights two in the front

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two in the back and the two in the back

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solid object that was doing these sort

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of weird cartwheels but it was

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identify what it was and there were no

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roads at the time

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for me to go chase it down that is the

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closest because i had really good move

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on training and that's what i loved

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aircraft and and airships and things but

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military prototypes would keep up on

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what's being tested where because i live

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in san diego it's full of military stuff

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um but to this day i still have no clue

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what that was and

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it's always kind of haunted me a little

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but

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you know for me to come out and say it

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was an alien ship well no

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probably not but it was really cool

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whatever it was

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i was one of those unfortunate mufun

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people that never saw anything

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well at least you're honest i mean i've

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only lived in san diego like i live in

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san diego too i live in pacific beach

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um honey yeah i'm in san marcos nice

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uh i've only been here for like three

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years but i came from

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missouri and you know crossing the

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desert i'm always watching i'm like man

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this is the place this is the place you

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see stuff

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but no i don't know what it is some

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people just seem to attract that stuff

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and others repel it well that it's

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interesting you say that because that to

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me

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makes it kind of fishy that's what i

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hate is that i i'll talk to some people

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and you know

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they're doing uh you know channeling on

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monday

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talking to ufos on tuesday and i'm just

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like

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what where where are these things oh

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it's like can you teach me but you know

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what i'll tell you something that's

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really interesting

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the this idea that you could go through

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the desert with

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you know the starry night sky where

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everything is so clear that you can see

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everything

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and not see anything but somebody else

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could be right behind you in a car

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and actually see something you know

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there's actually something

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to that and and my co-author larry

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flaxman and i the book that we're

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writing now

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we're trying to look at what might

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happen on two levels that cause some

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people to have paranormal

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experiences and others could be standing

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right next to them and they don't

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really believe that their environmental

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influence is going on

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and there are physiological influences

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they're all lined up

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somebody has an experience and you could

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be standing right next to them

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and you will not what are those

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mechanisms what are those triggers

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because it really is frustrating

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when uh maybe not so much in the ufo

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field but definitely in like the

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paranormal the ghost

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field where you have 10 people in a

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quote-unquote

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haunted location and some of them will

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have legitimate experiences

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and others will have nothing and and

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that's happened i've been in

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i've been on the queen mary several

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times not one thing has ever happened

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and yet people next to me are screaming

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you know

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are spying are they making it up i don't

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know maybe not

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well one thing i'm a big terrence

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mckenna fan and he used to have

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these talks and one of the things he

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used to say was that

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people have an operating system and if

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you don't like someone who's a rigid

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conservative catholic might see a ufo

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and just it won't

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process for their brains it doesn't fit

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into their framework and i'm like well

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that

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is not the case with me i'm down show me

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something

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everything yeah but still it's kind of

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sad but either way uh

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let's get on to the subject of time in

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your newest book i guess which is

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this book is from the future a few weeks

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back i spoke with stan dayo about some

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of the anti-gravity craft that he worked

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on secretly for government projects

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he spoke a bit about this technology

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involved

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electromagnetism and time altering

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fields and there seems to be a definite

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link between

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ufos or electromagnetism and time have

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you heard about any other cases or

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examples of

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absolutely that's kind of fun yeah i

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mean there's

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there are a lot of theories that the

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manipulating the em field

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and and even a manipulation of gravity

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is how the

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craft if you want to call them that get

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from wherever they're coming from to

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hear

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and seem to do so by defying our known

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laws of physics which

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you know seem to limit us from not doing

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these same things

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but i truly believe that because you

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know time and space are interconnected

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so

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if you're going to talk about the

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manipulation of space

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which would allow a ufo to come from

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either one part of this universe to this

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part or another universe

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to our universe and you also have to

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take into account they may be coming

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from another time

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you know if you talk about things like

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wormholes that connect different points

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in the universe they could also

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connect different universes and

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they can connect different times because

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everything is interconnected so

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why would we not think that an advanced

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civilization that has figured out how to

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do this

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stuff that we're trying to do that they

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would not also be able to manipulate and

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alter

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the timeline as well so i absolutely

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think that that's

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that's a huge um interest i guess you

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could say

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and and a lot of the conspiracies

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involving time travel

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project montauk and what have you even

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um

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the philadelphia experiment whether you

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believe anything happened or not

441
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it did involve the manipulation of the

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am field so just leave this stuff's been

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around for a while

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somebody knows that it's a real good

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avenue to you know to go

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and i think that um you know you have to

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include time with that it's not just

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about manipulating space

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even more conventional experiments have

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happened like uh

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the was it the half-life heating

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experiment

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right where they send uh two planes

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around the world

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and yeah and they're able to show that

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there is a little bit of time

457
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difference that occurs and yeah how does

458
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how can i ever release this was that

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just uh you know i mean basically

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the faster they go i mean the the clocks

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kind of slowed by a few nanoseconds

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it's time dilation i mean you know like

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the einstein stuff we learned in high

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school the idea

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that the faster the closer you come to

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the speed of light even if it's

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incremental

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the slower time will appear to the

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person who is

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in motion that doesn't occur to the

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person who's the um

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stationary observer and of course that's

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the whole relativity thing

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but i think what is need to be

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emphasized is again it's our natural

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tendency to think that space and time

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are separate

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so it's like okay well things that we

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can do in a spatial sense

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we don't include time into that but we

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have to i mean

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they're they're interwoven and that's

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what the physicists tell us

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based on this is a an interwoven fabric

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or continuum and so what you do to one

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you have to be able to do to the other

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well what are a couple of your

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favorite more recent time discoveries or

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experiments that have happened

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well unfortunately they didn't lead

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anywhere well yeah

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i know well you know i think they do

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though i think even the failures like

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last year everybody was screaming and

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yelling over this the opera facility in

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italy and

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yeah and the possibility that we have

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found a particle

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that could uh you know breach faster

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than light

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speed and that was the neutrino which is

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really cool because that's a particle

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that has no mass

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right how they were able to measure it

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you know i'm not even going to get into

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i don't even but you know so they had

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they did an experiment they

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they duplicated it actually several

509
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times

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and that's what got everybody excited oh

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my god we finally found a particle

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that can go faster than the speed of

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light well what happened was

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they also eventually discovered that

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there were some technical glitches with

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the track the gps tracking system of

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course the

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cable something as dumb as a cable and

519
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why they kept getting the same result is

520
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just simply because they didn't know

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that those anomalies existed so the test

522
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just kept coming out positive

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um but the interesting thing is is it

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opened the door to the possibility that

525
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there are particles out there like you

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know the mysterious tachyon that

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everybody used to

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call uh talk about that may

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be proven one day through these amazing

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experiments

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to go faster than light and if that's

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the case

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you could extrapolate that to possibly

534
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mean a bigger

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object made up of many particles could

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do that

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um michio kaku my my favorite

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theoretical fist

539
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i mean he said really and i'm totally

540
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paraphrasing here

541
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that it all comes down to the

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engineering time travel is possible but

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it's an

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engineering problem now it's like okay

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theoretically we know a lot of different

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ways that it could possibly work

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but we need to think we need to actually

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build quote unquote the machine so to

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speak

550
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yeah that is a great way to say it that

551
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it's an engineering problem

552
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yeah now you know what if he's saying

553
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that right well that's the thing i was

554
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gonna say

555
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i used to i used to really love him and

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then i just got

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way deep down the rabbit hole and now i

558
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mean he seems

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boring you know no offense to him no

560
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offense to him but you know the

561
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conventional seems just a bit boring

562
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when you're looking into some of this

563
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crazy stuff

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can you imagine i mean think about the

565
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things he talks about and how

566
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you know how they would have played a

567
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hundred years ago people would have true

568
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harry potter you know yeah that's true

569
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well given the research that you have

570
00:19:10,390 --> 00:19:08,400
done how would you describe time is it a

571
00:19:12,310 --> 00:19:10,400
fourth dimension or more of an illusion

572
00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:12,320
created by the mind

573
00:19:15,830 --> 00:19:15,120
both right well you know we do treat it

574
00:19:19,430 --> 00:19:15,840
as a

575
00:19:20,470 --> 00:19:19,440
dimension separate uh the temporal

576
00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:20,480
dimension

577
00:19:25,110 --> 00:19:22,720
along with our three spatial but again

578
00:19:26,310 --> 00:19:25,120
when we talk about time space we include

579
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:26,320
all four

580
00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:29,760
but the thing is is that the only uh

581
00:19:34,549 --> 00:19:32,320
place that linear time the arrow of time

582
00:19:37,830 --> 00:19:34,559
from past present to future

583
00:19:38,789 --> 00:19:37,840
really occurs is within the structures

584
00:19:42,950 --> 00:19:38,799
of

585
00:19:45,350 --> 00:19:42,960
the human brain and in a cosmic sense

586
00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:45,360
and in a quantum sense there is no

587
00:19:49,190 --> 00:19:47,039
linear time

588
00:19:50,710 --> 00:19:49,200
we as human beings and all living things

589
00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:50,720
i think we all have brains

590
00:19:55,590 --> 00:19:54,000
you know even little little creatures

591
00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:55,600
our brains are designed that way for a

592
00:19:57,750 --> 00:19:57,280
reason and that is functionality and

593
00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:57,760
that is

594
00:20:02,070 --> 00:19:59,679
to be able to survive and reproduce and

595
00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:02,080
have lives that have order

596
00:20:05,830 --> 00:20:03,919
and and have some meaning i mean there's

597
00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:05,840
a purpose for life and that is really to

598
00:20:10,310 --> 00:20:07,280
reproduce itself

599
00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:10,320
and whatever destiny we may be moving

600
00:20:14,789 --> 00:20:13,039
towards as a species the goal is to keep

601
00:20:16,870 --> 00:20:14,799
reproducing and in order to do that

602
00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:16,880
there has to be a very structured

603
00:20:20,070 --> 00:20:17,919
timeline

604
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:20,080
but beyond the brain when we get to

605
00:20:23,830 --> 00:20:21,200
things like mind

606
00:20:25,270 --> 00:20:23,840
and consciousness when we get out there

607
00:20:25,830 --> 00:20:25,280
in the universe where the laws of

608
00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:25,840
physics

609
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:27,919
may not necessarily all be the same the

610
00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:29,280
further out you go when we

611
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:32,720
talk about other universes and you know

612
00:20:37,510 --> 00:20:35,679
excuse me other laws of physics that may

613
00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:37,520
apply there that will look like magic to

614
00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:38,720
us

615
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:42,000
time is fluid it's not fixed it doesn't

616
00:20:45,750 --> 00:20:43,840
exist in a linear fashion

617
00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:45,760
past present and future are all laid out

618
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:46,960
at once

619
00:20:51,029 --> 00:20:49,440
which means that we should be able to

620
00:20:53,110 --> 00:20:51,039
access information

621
00:20:55,029 --> 00:20:53,120
from the past present and future anytime

622
00:20:57,430 --> 00:20:55,039
we want if we could figure out

623
00:20:59,430 --> 00:20:57,440
how to do so which yeah larry and i

624
00:21:00,789 --> 00:20:59,440
think that we kind of have in a way

625
00:21:03,270 --> 00:21:00,799
and that's where all the mental time

626
00:21:05,350 --> 00:21:03,280
travel stuff kind of comes into play

627
00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:05,360
nice i mean it is tough to discuss

628
00:21:08,310 --> 00:21:07,360
theories of time travel and time itself

629
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,320
really without

630
00:21:12,390 --> 00:21:10,080
trying to define the framework of

631
00:21:14,390 --> 00:21:12,400
reality itself i mean considering

632
00:21:15,909 --> 00:21:14,400
that your book touches on you touch on

633
00:21:18,070 --> 00:21:15,919
so many of the major theories like

634
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:18,080
string theory the multiverse or membrane

635
00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:20,080
theory the holographic universe

636
00:21:24,870 --> 00:21:23,120
which seems most plausible to you

637
00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:24,880
how would you try to explain reality

638
00:21:29,590 --> 00:21:27,280
well okay i'm not a physicist oh explain

639
00:21:33,510 --> 00:21:29,600
reality

640
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:33,520
it's illusion um you know okay

641
00:21:37,590 --> 00:21:36,240
on so many levels yeah i really think

642
00:21:39,590 --> 00:21:37,600
that

643
00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:39,600
all right here's the deal i think

644
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:42,159
reality is made up of many levels

645
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:45,760
and we exist in one mainly again for

646
00:21:50,950 --> 00:21:47,919
functionality and survival purposes but

647
00:21:53,029 --> 00:21:50,960
we have access to on occasion

648
00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:53,039
those other realities and i we call them

649
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:54,960
paranormal we call them

650
00:21:59,510 --> 00:21:57,760
uh anomalous phenomenon we call them

651
00:22:02,549 --> 00:21:59,520
dreams and deja vu

652
00:22:04,070 --> 00:22:02,559
and cognition and remote viewing inside

653
00:22:06,230 --> 00:22:04,080
those are the real clues

654
00:22:07,270 --> 00:22:06,240
yeah yeah but see think about it we're

655
00:22:09,029 --> 00:22:07,280
not meant to

656
00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:09,039
always be able to do that stuff because

657
00:22:12,149 --> 00:22:10,559
if we did

658
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:12,159
we wouldn't be able to have one

659
00:22:15,270 --> 00:22:13,600
functional life with

660
00:22:17,990 --> 00:22:15,280
the purpose of which is to continue to

661
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:18,000
reproduce to keep the species going

662
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:21,200
um so to me and this is what uh

663
00:22:25,430 --> 00:22:23,039
our next book is about we it's called

664
00:22:26,310 --> 00:22:25,440
the grid exploring the hidden

665
00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:26,320
infrastructure

666
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:29,200
of reality believe it or not that sounds

667
00:22:30,950 --> 00:22:29,760
great

668
00:22:32,549 --> 00:22:30,960
yeah well what we're going to do it's

669
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:32,559
sort of an introductory book where we're

670
00:22:35,430 --> 00:22:33,520
going to bring together

671
00:22:37,029 --> 00:22:35,440
a lot of these theories and a lot of our

672
00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:37,039
research and

673
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:39,600
try to show how if there were a visible

674
00:22:41,750 --> 00:22:40,480
structure

675
00:22:43,430 --> 00:22:41,760
what it might be like because you know

676
00:22:45,270 --> 00:22:43,440
we're visual creatures and we like to

677
00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:45,280
have symbols and images

678
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:46,799
so we thought of a three-dimensional

679
00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:48,240
grid and the way you have these

680
00:22:51,750 --> 00:22:48,720
different

681
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:51,760
levels and you've got connectors you

682
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:52,320
know to

683
00:22:56,470 --> 00:22:54,720
connect each level so we're on one of

684
00:22:59,190 --> 00:22:56,480
those right that's our

685
00:23:01,110 --> 00:22:59,200
day-to-day normal reality but we can go

686
00:23:01,909 --> 00:23:01,120
up and down then side to side on those

687
00:23:04,070 --> 00:23:01,919
connectors

688
00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:04,080
and experience other realities on

689
00:23:08,230 --> 00:23:06,400
occasion and possibly death is just

690
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:08,240
another level of the grid yeah

691
00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:10,000
you go one up or you go one down

692
00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:12,000
whatever i assume you would talk a

693
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:13,760
little bit about psychedelics in

694
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:16,559
in that regard absolutely because those

695
00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:17,280
are

696
00:23:20,870 --> 00:23:19,919
triggers or mechanisms if you will by

697
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:20,880
which

698
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:23,760
the brain sort of is pushed into

699
00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:24,960
experiencing

700
00:23:28,470 --> 00:23:27,280
other levels of reality that normally it

701
00:23:29,909 --> 00:23:28,480
would not be aware of

702
00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:29,919
and again that's because of

703
00:23:32,549 --> 00:23:31,760
functionality i mean if we were always

704
00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:32,559
tripping out i

705
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:35,440
always saw the room you know most of us

706
00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:36,240
would not get

707
00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:38,960
anything accomplished we wouldn't you

708
00:23:43,029 --> 00:23:39,520
know have

709
00:23:45,510 --> 00:23:43,039
babies and species going and

710
00:23:46,470 --> 00:23:45,520
so yeah definitely um things like

711
00:23:49,510 --> 00:23:46,480
meditation

712
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:49,520
chanting oh my gosh anything shamanism

713
00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:50,080
where they do

714
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:52,880
drumming and anything that takes uh

715
00:23:56,950 --> 00:23:54,960
consciousness or takes your brain waves

716
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:56,960
and elevates them so that you can

717
00:24:02,470 --> 00:23:59,360
experience something other than

718
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:02,480
the normal everyday waking state i

719
00:24:05,909 --> 00:24:04,720
i mean i've had a couple of psychedelic

720
00:24:07,590 --> 00:24:05,919
experiences that

721
00:24:09,110 --> 00:24:07,600
to some friends of mine who haven't they

722
00:24:10,789 --> 00:24:09,120
write them off as a hallucination

723
00:24:12,630 --> 00:24:10,799
because that's the conventional

724
00:24:14,390 --> 00:24:12,640
model but you know when you have the

725
00:24:16,310 --> 00:24:14,400
experience it just seems

726
00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,320
it seems so real like your internal

727
00:24:18,950 --> 00:24:18,400
dialogue is kept intact you can still

728
00:24:21,269 --> 00:24:18,960
think

729
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:21,279
but you're just like man something is

730
00:24:23,750 --> 00:24:22,559
off you know

731
00:24:26,390 --> 00:24:23,760
yeah well you know what's funny there

732
00:24:28,149 --> 00:24:26,400
was an article i think god last week

733
00:24:29,190 --> 00:24:28,159
that you talk about hallucinations so

734
00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:29,200
ironic

735
00:24:33,590 --> 00:24:32,320
that talked about how you know again for

736
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:33,600
the longest time people thought

737
00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:36,880
hallucinations were just a triviality

738
00:24:43,669 --> 00:24:40,640
and yet they like dreams can seem

739
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,679
100 real to the brain

740
00:24:48,310 --> 00:24:45,520
so the brain doesn't differentiate

741
00:24:51,350 --> 00:24:48,320
between a very vivid hallucination or

742
00:24:53,190 --> 00:24:51,360
say a really vivid dream and

743
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:53,200
you and i talking right now and what we

744
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:55,520
consider to be our waking state

745
00:25:00,310 --> 00:24:57,600
those are different realities to the

746
00:25:02,230 --> 00:25:00,320
brain and you know if you've had um

747
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:02,240
a dream where you've you something

748
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,080
really sad happens you cry you feel

749
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:05,760
emotion in dreams you feel

750
00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:09,120
terror uh you know there are sexual

751
00:25:12,789 --> 00:25:09,919
dreams

752
00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:12,799
i mean our bodies and our brains react

753
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:13,520
to those

754
00:25:18,350 --> 00:25:16,559
experiences as if they were just as real

755
00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,360
as the waking state so even

756
00:25:23,190 --> 00:25:20,480
hallucinations now are being taken a

757
00:25:25,190 --> 00:25:23,200
little more seriously it's about time

758
00:25:26,310 --> 00:25:25,200
yeah it's it dreams are a messed up

759
00:25:27,590 --> 00:25:26,320
thing because you know you'll

760
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:27,600
you'll be sleeping with your partner and

761
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:29,039
you have a dream that they cheated on

762
00:25:31,190 --> 00:25:30,559
you and you wake up and you're kind of

763
00:25:33,590 --> 00:25:31,200
like

764
00:25:34,390 --> 00:25:33,600
what the [\h__\h] yeah you know but and

765
00:25:37,830 --> 00:25:34,400
they're getting

766
00:25:39,750 --> 00:25:37,840
all testy like you what did you do

767
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:39,760
and you you know it's stupid but it's

768
00:25:43,110 --> 00:25:41,200
like you know you can't

769
00:25:44,710 --> 00:25:43,120
you wake up in a slightly bad mood it

770
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:44,720
takes a minute to shake it off

771
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:47,679
it does and that proves just how

772
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:48,640
realistic

773
00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:50,559
what happens on the other side of sleep

774
00:25:53,750 --> 00:25:51,760
really is it's

775
00:25:54,870 --> 00:25:53,760
i love it i think it's so cool because

776
00:25:57,269 --> 00:25:54,880
you know when i

777
00:25:58,950 --> 00:25:57,279
started to realize i never bought into

778
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:58,960
that whole thing about how dreams are

779
00:26:01,909 --> 00:25:59,919
just your

780
00:26:04,070 --> 00:26:01,919
subconscious trying to you know the

781
00:26:05,750 --> 00:26:04,080
freudian stuff try to speak to you

782
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,760
yeah well and i do think that does

783
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:07,200
happen but i

784
00:26:12,230 --> 00:26:10,000
really think of dreams as more of

785
00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:12,240
experiences of other universes other

786
00:26:15,590 --> 00:26:14,000
realities maybe we're slipping into the

787
00:26:17,269 --> 00:26:15,600
multiverse and we're

788
00:26:18,549 --> 00:26:17,279
you know and that's why things seem so

789
00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:18,559
bizarre in dreams because we're

790
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:20,559
operating in those multiverses

791
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:22,480
with different laws of physics so it

792
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:24,000
looks like magic you can turn into

793
00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:27,440
a pink pony you know or you can fly

794
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,720
i mean yeah i'm sure freud was right on

795
00:26:33,110 --> 00:26:31,919
some of that stuff i'm

796
00:26:34,950 --> 00:26:33,120
pretty sure if you keep dreaming of

797
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:34,960
plane crashes it means your life is a

798
00:26:38,549 --> 00:26:35,919
mess

799
00:26:40,549 --> 00:26:38,559
but at the same time i think people know

800
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:40,559
the difference between maybe a symbolic

801
00:26:43,190 --> 00:26:41,279
dream

802
00:26:44,549 --> 00:26:43,200
and one where they're really they're in

803
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:44,559
another world

804
00:26:47,750 --> 00:26:46,080
yeah i mean i know you're familiar with

805
00:26:50,789 --> 00:26:47,760
anthony peake

806
00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:50,799
yes yes a lot of the similar uh work

807
00:26:56,789 --> 00:26:54,400
too true came out is about time and

808
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:56,799
deja vu and all that stuff oh he's great

809
00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:58,240
uh i talked to him

810
00:27:02,230 --> 00:27:00,400
a while ago maybe maybe it was even

811
00:27:03,750 --> 00:27:02,240
almost a year ago but uh

812
00:27:06,149 --> 00:27:03,760
something i discussed with him it's like

813
00:27:07,909 --> 00:27:06,159
i like the idea that our dreams are just

814
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,919
as real as our waking life it's just a

815
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:09,520
different type of reality but

816
00:27:14,149 --> 00:27:11,919
right when you you know when you have

817
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:14,159
sex with someone you know in a dream

818
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:16,960
and you see that person i feel like they

819
00:27:21,110 --> 00:27:17,279
sh

820
00:27:21,590 --> 00:27:21,120
is that not them is it a manifestation

821
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,600
of them

822
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:23,760
they're doppelganger you know that's a

823
00:27:26,630 --> 00:27:25,039
really good question

824
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:26,640
and the thing is well either they don't

825
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:29,440
want to admit that they know

826
00:27:34,310 --> 00:27:32,480
or you know i think that there are

827
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:34,320
people that are more sensitive to these

828
00:27:37,830 --> 00:27:35,760
other realities

829
00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:37,840
so it could be that they didn't even you

830
00:27:39,590 --> 00:27:38,960
know you have dreams that you don't

831
00:27:43,990 --> 00:27:39,600
remember

832
00:27:46,870 --> 00:27:44,000
years

833
00:27:50,389 --> 00:27:46,880
i have waking life i don't remember i

834
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,830
i don't know i think that's a really

835
00:27:54,789 --> 00:27:53,679
good question but i think it could be

836
00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:54,799
either

837
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:57,279
um they're just not on the same

838
00:28:01,350 --> 00:27:58,640
wavelength so to speak

839
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:01,360
in terms of remembering dreams or it

840
00:28:04,630 --> 00:28:02,399
wasn't quite

841
00:28:06,070 --> 00:28:04,640
them in this reality it was them in a

842
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:06,080
parallel universe

843
00:28:09,669 --> 00:28:08,399
so consciously they don't have memory of

844
00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:09,679
it but for some

845
00:28:13,909 --> 00:28:11,679
you do i don't know that's a good

846
00:28:16,950 --> 00:28:13,919
question usually that's called date rape

847
00:28:20,230 --> 00:28:16,960
but it's some form of dream rape i guess

848
00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:22,549
wait let's talk a little bit about some

849
00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:23,279
of the

850
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:25,360
time mysteries and the conspiracies that

851
00:28:29,669 --> 00:28:27,440
you wrote about um

852
00:28:31,830 --> 00:28:29,679
what about the the john teeter situation

853
00:28:34,389 --> 00:28:31,840
how what's your opinion of him

854
00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:34,399
well you know i gotta be honest with you

855
00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:34,960
i

856
00:28:43,029 --> 00:28:40,799
2000s you know for those of you who

857
00:28:45,830 --> 00:28:43,039
don't know who john teeter is he

858
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:45,840
was a excuse me alleged time traveler

859
00:28:48,710 --> 00:28:46,640
that showed up

860
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:48,720
on internet bulletin boards back in i

861
00:28:52,630 --> 00:28:50,159
think the year 2000

862
00:28:54,230 --> 00:28:52,640
yeah 2001 and just all of a sudden

863
00:28:57,110 --> 00:28:54,240
started posting

864
00:28:58,950 --> 00:28:57,120
um that he was a time traveler from the

865
00:29:00,950 --> 00:28:58,960
year 2036

866
00:29:03,110 --> 00:29:00,960
he was trying to get home he had been

867
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:03,120
sent here from the future to pick up an

868
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:04,240
archaic

869
00:29:08,549 --> 00:29:07,440
ibm computer system from like the 1970s

870
00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:08,559
for whatever reason

871
00:29:13,909 --> 00:29:12,080
yeah that was sketchy yeah and you know

872
00:29:15,990 --> 00:29:13,919
for some reason he he didn't go home

873
00:29:16,950 --> 00:29:16,000
right away so he ended up posting all

874
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:16,960
kinds of

875
00:29:20,870 --> 00:29:18,880
information about this time machine that

876
00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:20,880
he had created and how it

877
00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,960
how it worked how it was manufactured by

878
00:29:25,990 --> 00:29:24,320
ge

879
00:29:29,590 --> 00:29:26,000
and you know a lot of his science was

880
00:29:33,110 --> 00:29:29,600
right on the money i mean he obviously

881
00:29:33,750 --> 00:29:33,120
excuse me new um a lot of the research

882
00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:33,760
that was

883
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:35,679
being conducted into different time

884
00:29:39,669 --> 00:29:37,760
travel theories and mechanisms by which

885
00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:39,679
you could create a time travel device he

886
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:41,039
was up on all that

887
00:29:44,710 --> 00:29:43,440
but he started also posting like

888
00:29:47,510 --> 00:29:44,720
predictions and

889
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:47,520
and right prophecies very few of them

890
00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:48,240
came true

891
00:29:50,870 --> 00:29:49,760
most of them were so vague that they

892
00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:50,880
could have come true you never would

893
00:29:54,789 --> 00:29:51,440
have known

894
00:29:56,070 --> 00:29:54,799
right and apparently he kept a time

895
00:29:58,630 --> 00:29:56,080
travel device in a

896
00:29:59,590 --> 00:29:58,640
back of a 1967 chevy corvette

897
00:30:01,350 --> 00:29:59,600
convertible

898
00:30:03,110 --> 00:30:01,360
and i only giggle just because it's you

899
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:03,120
know but he did post a little back to

900
00:30:06,710 --> 00:30:04,080
the future

901
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:06,720
yeah he posted diagrams in an

902
00:30:09,909 --> 00:30:08,399
instruction manual a lot of people that

903
00:30:11,669 --> 00:30:09,919
looked at it said hey you know there may

904
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:11,679
be something to this

905
00:30:15,669 --> 00:30:14,000
i know he was on coast to coast um art

906
00:30:16,789 --> 00:30:15,679
bell had faxes with him and

907
00:30:19,510 --> 00:30:16,799
conversations but

908
00:30:20,389 --> 00:30:19,520
then he just kind of vanished and went

909
00:30:23,350 --> 00:30:20,399
home

910
00:30:26,310 --> 00:30:23,360
yeah probably yeah or maybe he went back

911
00:30:27,830 --> 00:30:26,320
to 1975 to get another ibm and got stuck

912
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:27,840
there who knows but

913
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,520
there's there was a lot of speculation

914
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:31,679
as to who he might be or if it was just

915
00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:34,000
one big it was the beginning of the

916
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:36,399
viral internet fraud who knows

917
00:30:40,470 --> 00:30:38,880
yeah he was just one of many people that

918
00:30:42,950 --> 00:30:40,480
have shown up

919
00:30:44,389 --> 00:30:42,960
claiming to be time travelers or

920
00:30:46,470 --> 00:30:44,399
claiming to

921
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:46,480
have been part of uh some government

922
00:30:51,590 --> 00:30:47,840
experiment

923
00:30:53,669 --> 00:30:51,600
some uh you know top secret time

924
00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:53,679
experiment and the thing is is that how

925
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:55,520
do you prove that they were and how do

926
00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:57,039
you prove that they weren't

927
00:31:00,230 --> 00:30:58,799
i know i mean another one of those

928
00:31:00,549 --> 00:31:00,240
another one of those guys a pretty out

929
00:31:05,590 --> 00:31:00,559
there

930
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:05,600
time travel conspiracy is the uh andy

931
00:31:08,549 --> 00:31:07,200
i have such i'm italian i have a hard

932
00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:08,559
time saying his name andrew andrew

933
00:31:15,269 --> 00:31:14,070
the project pegasus let's say it that

934
00:31:17,909 --> 00:31:15,279
way but um

935
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:17,919
i definitely think weird time travel

936
00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:19,600
experiments have happened

937
00:31:23,269 --> 00:31:21,360
and been done in secret but i wrote a

938
00:31:24,789 --> 00:31:23,279
pretty disapproving piece after i

939
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:24,799
attended one of his lectures in san

940
00:31:27,269 --> 00:31:25,440
diego

941
00:31:29,110 --> 00:31:27,279
hey did you ever actually hear him speak

942
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:29,120
okay so yes yeah

943
00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,799
i just think i think he's full of [\h__\h]

944
00:31:34,230 --> 00:31:32,399
but i can never be 100

945
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:34,240
sure but it's just that he gives a

946
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:36,080
presentation in 2011

947
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,760
saying that carter clinton bush and

948
00:31:41,430 --> 00:31:39,279
obama would all be president well where

949
00:31:44,070 --> 00:31:41,440
was that presentation in 1970

950
00:31:45,509 --> 00:31:44,080
you know when it mattered like after the

951
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:45,519
fact or when we're pretty sure we could

952
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:46,480
have made the same

953
00:31:50,310 --> 00:31:48,640
addiction and when i asked who well when

954
00:31:51,430 --> 00:31:50,320
i asked him who is net who the next

955
00:31:52,070 --> 00:31:51,440
president would be i'm like give me

956
00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:52,080
something

957
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:54,000
in the future you know you well you time

958
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:55,600
traveled up until today and that's all

959
00:31:58,549 --> 00:31:56,559
you know

960
00:32:00,070 --> 00:31:58,559
he said he would be the next president

961
00:32:00,470 --> 00:32:00,080
he expected himself to be the next

962
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:00,480
person

963
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:03,360
that he's running i swear to you he's

964
00:32:07,909 --> 00:32:04,480
running for president

965
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:07,919
for 2016. well it's just

966
00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:10,240
i mean yeah you can run but let's work

967
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:11,519
on this campaign

968
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:13,279
no i mean i laugh too because i feel

969
00:32:16,389 --> 00:32:14,720
just like you do

970
00:32:18,389 --> 00:32:16,399
i've listened to interviews i've i've

971
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,399
heard him i've seen the youtubes

972
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:20,559
what he's really what's really

973
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:22,320
intriguing about him is the level of

974
00:32:26,710 --> 00:32:23,919
detail that he retains

975
00:32:28,950 --> 00:32:26,720
on these um experiences because you

976
00:32:31,029 --> 00:32:28,960
think about you know when people lie

977
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:31,039
and they they make stuff up they don't

978
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:33,039
always remember the fine details unless

979
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:34,559
they have one of these photographic

980
00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:36,399
memories or it's all written down and

981
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:37,760
they're reading off a script

982
00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:39,840
true so and i've heard a lot of people

983
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:41,760
say i was blown away by

984
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:45,840
his detail the the level of recall but

985
00:32:50,070 --> 00:32:48,640
the stuff that he was saying was just

986
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:50,080
ridiculous and

987
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:52,480
is you know stating that he was in this

988
00:32:55,430 --> 00:32:54,720
like we have it in the book this picture

989
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:55,440
that

990
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:58,240
gettysburg of a little kid yes and it's

991
00:33:01,430 --> 00:33:00,320
like that's just a picture of somebody

992
00:33:03,430 --> 00:33:01,440
that's nothing

993
00:33:04,870 --> 00:33:03,440
you know that could be anybody right he

994
00:33:06,310 --> 00:33:04,880
claims he time traveled to the

995
00:33:07,750 --> 00:33:06,320
gettysburg address and there is a

996
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:07,760
picture of him captured and then it was

997
00:33:11,830 --> 00:33:09,200
in time magazine for those who don't

998
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:11,840
know yeah it's just a picture of a kid

999
00:33:15,110 --> 00:33:14,399
in in during the gettysburg address i

1000
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:15,120
guess

1001
00:33:18,549 --> 00:33:17,760
yeah claiming that the kid is dressed in

1002
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:18,559
a way with

1003
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:21,760
like these big street shoes

1004
00:33:25,669 --> 00:33:23,440
where you would be able to identify him

1005
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:25,679
as not being of that time but i looked

1006
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:26,640
at that

1007
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:30,399
clothing and he looks like he could fit

1008
00:33:34,549 --> 00:33:32,000
into that time frame

1009
00:33:36,549 --> 00:33:34,559
perfectly and there have been other uh

1010
00:33:38,470 --> 00:33:36,559
time travel you know urban legends of

1011
00:33:40,070 --> 00:33:38,480
people that looked like they were out of

1012
00:33:41,750 --> 00:33:40,080
time they were dressed

1013
00:33:43,669 --> 00:33:41,760
differently but they've always been

1014
00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:43,679
discredited by somebody who said you

1015
00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:44,320
know

1016
00:33:47,990 --> 00:33:46,000
at that time there were clothes

1017
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:48,000
available that look like that

1018
00:33:52,310 --> 00:33:50,559
so it's just our weird desire i guess to

1019
00:33:53,669 --> 00:33:52,320
believe that the government is always

1020
00:33:54,710 --> 00:33:53,679
way ahead of the game which they very

1021
00:33:57,190 --> 00:33:54,720
well could be

1022
00:33:58,630 --> 00:33:57,200
i definitely think they are yeah but

1023
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:58,640
some of these people that claim that

1024
00:34:02,549 --> 00:33:59,600
they were child

1025
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:02,559
you know chrononauts back in the 70s and

1026
00:34:08,550 --> 00:34:03,519
the 80s

1027
00:34:11,829 --> 00:34:10,550
chair that you sat in that manipulated

1028
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:11,839
the em field and

1029
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:14,879
and another thing that was funny

1030
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:17,359
is that i guess this chair this montauk

1031
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:18,399
chair

1032
00:34:21,510 --> 00:34:20,560
fell kind of fell into a wormhole

1033
00:34:23,190 --> 00:34:21,520
beneath it

1034
00:34:24,550 --> 00:34:23,200
but it didn't actually fall it was more

1035
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:24,560
of a

1036
00:34:28,629 --> 00:34:27,040
a mental thing i guess but how funny

1037
00:34:30,069 --> 00:34:28,639
that that sounds just like that carl

1038
00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:30,079
sagan movie contact

1039
00:34:34,950 --> 00:34:33,280
true jeffy's you've seen it yeah yeah

1040
00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:34,960
she's sitting in the chair and the be

1041
00:34:38,149 --> 00:34:36,879
below her are the gyroscopes spinning

1042
00:34:39,909 --> 00:34:38,159
and spinning

1043
00:34:42,069 --> 00:34:39,919
and then the chair drops into the

1044
00:34:44,149 --> 00:34:42,079
wormhole but

1045
00:34:45,190 --> 00:34:44,159
the observers see nothing happen the

1046
00:34:47,109 --> 00:34:45,200
chair is up

1047
00:34:48,470 --> 00:34:47,119
but she feels that it drops so i don't

1048
00:34:49,510 --> 00:34:48,480
know i thought that was a little bit

1049
00:34:51,349 --> 00:34:49,520
coincidental

1050
00:34:53,030 --> 00:34:51,359
yeah i've watched it again in modern

1051
00:34:54,790 --> 00:34:53,040
times and i like it a lot better but at

1052
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:54,800
the time i was so young

1053
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:57,680
uh i mean i that was like 91 or

1054
00:35:01,510 --> 00:34:59,440
something i think i was in like

1055
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:01,520
second grade and i was just pissed that

1056
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:03,280
there weren't aliens until the last five

1057
00:35:05,910 --> 00:35:03,839
minutes

1058
00:35:07,510 --> 00:35:05,920
i know a lot of people crap about that

1059
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,520
and that was based on his novel which

1060
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:09,359
had been out but he really wanted to try

1061
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:10,720
to

1062
00:35:14,630 --> 00:35:13,119
you know do like a more realistic yeah

1063
00:35:16,069 --> 00:35:14,640
it's good now i mean when you think

1064
00:35:16,870 --> 00:35:16,079
about it in those terms it is a really

1065
00:35:19,030 --> 00:35:16,880
good movie

1066
00:35:20,870 --> 00:35:19,040
because the alien took on the guys of

1067
00:35:21,990 --> 00:35:20,880
her father so that it didn't scare the

1068
00:35:23,589 --> 00:35:22,000
crap out of her

1069
00:35:26,550 --> 00:35:23,599
which you know if they're really that

1070
00:35:27,829 --> 00:35:26,560
intelligent that that makes sense

1071
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:27,839
something else that's in your book that

1072
00:35:30,470 --> 00:35:29,680
i found interesting that i'd never heard

1073
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:30,480
about before

1074
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,599
is uh chronostasia can you explain that

1075
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:35,359
yeah that's where things got really cool

1076
00:35:38,390 --> 00:35:36,880
for me and larry because you know

1077
00:35:40,550 --> 00:35:38,400
all this stuff is fascinating the

1078
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:40,560
science can give you a real big headache

1079
00:35:44,230 --> 00:35:42,720
the conspiracies are fun but we always

1080
00:35:46,150 --> 00:35:44,240
felt like

1081
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:46,160
we wanted to look at the more paranormal

1082
00:35:50,230 --> 00:35:47,920
aspects of time travel

1083
00:35:52,550 --> 00:35:50,240
and we were really really lucky that our

1084
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:52,560
uh publisher new page books let us put

1085
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:53,280
this in there

1086
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:55,680
because eventually originally they just

1087
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:56,480
wanted us to

1088
00:36:01,349 --> 00:35:59,680
do like straight science no no we're

1089
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:01,359
already time traveling we want to talk

1090
00:36:06,470 --> 00:36:03,440
about that too

1091
00:36:08,390 --> 00:36:06,480
so chronesthesia mental time travel

1092
00:36:10,950 --> 00:36:08,400
really encompasses

1093
00:36:11,990 --> 00:36:10,960
so many things we're not talking about

1094
00:36:13,829 --> 00:36:12,000
memory okay

1095
00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:13,839
people say well memory is a form of time

1096
00:36:18,230 --> 00:36:15,119
travel yes it is

1097
00:36:20,470 --> 00:36:18,240
but memory is tainted by the present

1098
00:36:21,589 --> 00:36:20,480
in other words what you look back on in

1099
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:21,599
your past

1100
00:36:25,109 --> 00:36:23,040
chances are that's not what really

1101
00:36:26,150 --> 00:36:25,119
happened memory morphs and changes over

1102
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:26,160
time i agree

1103
00:36:31,030 --> 00:36:29,280
anesthesia though is it's it's a

1104
00:36:33,030 --> 00:36:31,040
a way of the brain to travel back and

1105
00:36:35,270 --> 00:36:33,040
forth in time it does it mentally but it

1106
00:36:38,630 --> 00:36:35,280
does it in subjective time

1107
00:36:41,990 --> 00:36:38,640
it's a lot more realistic there's a lot

1108
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:42,000
greater detail of recall

1109
00:36:45,190 --> 00:36:43,920
perception and memory and all that stuff

1110
00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:45,200
can really again

1111
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:46,720
kind of taint what it is that you

1112
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:48,560
remember like if you remember getting in

1113
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:51,200
a fight with a girlfriend two years ago

1114
00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:52,960
chances are you're you're adding and

1115
00:36:56,069 --> 00:36:55,040
embellishing some things and she'll do

1116
00:36:58,950 --> 00:36:56,079
the same

1117
00:36:59,750 --> 00:36:58,960
um but chronesthesia allows the brain to

1118
00:37:01,910 --> 00:36:59,760
literally

1119
00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:01,920
go back and see how it really was so

1120
00:37:05,990 --> 00:37:03,839
that's just something that a lot of

1121
00:37:07,030 --> 00:37:06,000
uh you know i guess in the the

1122
00:37:09,510 --> 00:37:07,040
neurological

1123
00:37:12,069 --> 00:37:09,520
community the brain research is looking

1124
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:12,079
at subjective time travel and again

1125
00:37:15,670 --> 00:37:13,680
we want to do it physically because

1126
00:37:16,310 --> 00:37:15,680
we're physical creatures we want to be

1127
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:16,320
able to get

1128
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:17,920
in a little craft and go back to the

1129
00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:20,079
past or into the future but

1130
00:37:23,750 --> 00:37:22,320
how cool is it that maybe the real

1131
00:37:25,910 --> 00:37:23,760
research

1132
00:37:28,150 --> 00:37:25,920
should be in how we're already doing it

1133
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:28,160
with our brains and our minds

1134
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:30,000
well i'd say how does that work because

1135
00:37:33,910 --> 00:37:31,839
you have to have

1136
00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:33,920
uh you know even in even in quantum

1137
00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:35,200
physics there needs to be a

1138
00:37:37,829 --> 00:37:36,320
they're coming to the terms that it

1139
00:37:39,109 --> 00:37:37,839
needs to be a conscious observer like

1140
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:39,119
how would you go back

1141
00:37:43,270 --> 00:37:41,520
without just mentally without being a

1142
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:43,280
conscious observer don't you need

1143
00:37:50,550 --> 00:37:47,280
a vessel even if it is just a body

1144
00:37:53,430 --> 00:37:50,560
you know i think we go back to the past

1145
00:37:54,790 --> 00:37:53,440
all the time in terms of mind or

1146
00:37:55,990 --> 00:37:54,800
consciousness or whatever it is that

1147
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:56,000
we're projecting

1148
00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:58,240
well okay i mean we can't prove that

1149
00:38:01,190 --> 00:37:59,280
they're real but

1150
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:01,200
some people when they have deja vu they

1151
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:04,480
have a deja vu in a particular location

1152
00:38:07,670 --> 00:38:06,480
where they really get this overwhelming

1153
00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,680
feeling that they've been

1154
00:38:11,349 --> 00:38:09,839
in that location before but maybe during

1155
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:11,359
you know the top building of the

1156
00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:12,960
pyramids or what have you

1157
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:15,119
and it really just feels so realistic

1158
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:16,320
that they can actually

1159
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:18,160
identify places that you know they've

1160
00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:20,079
never been to before

1161
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:23,760
so how is the brain accessing that it's

1162
00:38:28,470 --> 00:38:26,480
it's as if there's a part of us and i

1163
00:38:29,430 --> 00:38:28,480
really do believe that mind is separate

1164
00:38:33,109 --> 00:38:29,440
from the brain

1165
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:33,119
i'm one of those that can transcend the

1166
00:38:36,390 --> 00:38:34,000
physical

1167
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:36,400
limitations of the way that we have to

1168
00:38:41,109 --> 00:38:38,400
perceive linear time

1169
00:38:42,470 --> 00:38:41,119
and can kind of go beyond the body into

1170
00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,480
the future like when you have a

1171
00:38:46,870 --> 00:38:44,640
precognitive dream of a car crash that

1172
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:46,880
ends up happening two weeks later

1173
00:38:50,950 --> 00:38:48,960
or back into the past when you see

1174
00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:50,960
yourself so vividly in another

1175
00:38:56,310 --> 00:38:54,079
lifetime maybe that that you're able to

1176
00:38:57,750 --> 00:38:56,320
corroborate even

1177
00:38:59,349 --> 00:38:57,760
and that's happened so many times that

1178
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,359
it's hard to discount those kinds of

1179
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:01,520
experiences so i think

1180
00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:03,119
it's it's different than just

1181
00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:05,119
remembering it's different from reading

1182
00:39:07,670 --> 00:39:06,640
about something and then recalling what

1183
00:39:10,390 --> 00:39:07,680
you read

1184
00:39:11,589 --> 00:39:10,400
it's you know so deeply experiential and

1185
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:11,599
yet

1186
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:13,520
there are ways that you can corroborate

1187
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:14,640
for example there have been people

1188
00:39:19,510 --> 00:39:17,040
who've had past life visions where

1189
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:19,520
they've children even where they've seen

1190
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:20,240
people they've

1191
00:39:24,230 --> 00:39:22,400
heard names they've street names and

1192
00:39:26,390 --> 00:39:24,240
they've been able to

1193
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:26,400
literally corroborate that those people

1194
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:28,000
existed the streets existed

1195
00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:29,680
at the time the vision occurred blah

1196
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:32,560
blah blah and again precognition

1197
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:35,599
i mean there are people that

1198
00:39:38,790 --> 00:39:38,000
can predict a future event i've done it

1199
00:39:42,150 --> 00:39:38,800
myself

1200
00:39:45,190 --> 00:39:42,160
not in a way that is real grand but

1201
00:39:46,470 --> 00:39:45,200
i have had gut hunches

1202
00:39:47,829 --> 00:39:46,480
where i knew there was going to be an

1203
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:47,839
earthquake in a few days now maybe it

1204
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:50,320
was my body reacting to seismic activity

1205
00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:51,760
you know just below the surface what

1206
00:39:54,870 --> 00:39:53,280
have you impossible

1207
00:39:56,470 --> 00:39:54,880
you know people who said that they were

1208
00:39:57,270 --> 00:39:56,480
supposed to get on one of those planes

1209
00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:57,280
at 9 11

1210
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:00,480
and they just knew not to

1211
00:40:04,950 --> 00:40:03,520
to me that's precognition yeah

1212
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:04,960
what about the people who did get on the

1213
00:40:08,870 --> 00:40:07,119
plane are they just not tuned in

1214
00:40:10,790 --> 00:40:08,880
yeah you know there's there's two ways

1215
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,800
to look at that either they did get the

1216
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,240
same signals but they ignored them

1217
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:13,920
because how many times do we do that

1218
00:40:18,790 --> 00:40:17,040
right got to get to work yeah exactly my

1219
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:18,800
can't have my boss fire me i can't lose

1220
00:40:21,510 --> 00:40:19,680
my job

1221
00:40:23,829 --> 00:40:21,520
or they didn't because again of what we

1222
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,839
talked about earlier where there may be

1223
00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:25,359
you know certain physiological

1224
00:40:29,910 --> 00:40:26,880
differences between

1225
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:29,920
the person who got the kick in the gut

1226
00:40:33,430 --> 00:40:30,400
to say

1227
00:40:34,870 --> 00:40:33,440
no don't get on that plane and the one

1228
00:40:37,510 --> 00:40:34,880
who maybe got a little bit of an

1229
00:40:37,990 --> 00:40:37,520
inkling that something was off that day

1230
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:38,000
but it

1231
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:39,359
wasn't strong enough for them to

1232
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:41,359
pinpoint or the association with getting

1233
00:40:45,589 --> 00:40:43,040
on a plane

1234
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:45,599
so i mean to me that's just differences

1235
00:40:51,349 --> 00:40:47,920
in the way that we're made

1236
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:51,359
i really like the idea of following um

1237
00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:54,800
you know some type of communication with

1238
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:56,480
the universe you know there's actually a

1239
00:40:59,829 --> 00:40:58,240
movie called jeff who lives at home with

1240
00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:59,839
uh jason siegel it's kind of a comedy

1241
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:01,200
movie but it's a little weird so it

1242
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:02,640
didn't really reach the mainstream but

1243
00:41:06,710 --> 00:41:04,800
he basically follows all these

1244
00:41:08,550 --> 00:41:06,720
all these messages like he gets a wrong

1245
00:41:09,910 --> 00:41:08,560
somebody calls and asks for michael and

1246
00:41:11,430 --> 00:41:09,920
it's a wrong number so then throughout

1247
00:41:13,190 --> 00:41:11,440
the day he's looking for a michael

1248
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:13,200
he sees a guy with it on his jersey

1249
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:15,520
follows that guy and you know

1250
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:17,680
it's a pretty damn cool movie and like i

1251
00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:20,000
would have to look for a netflix

1252
00:41:23,510 --> 00:41:21,839
or something yeah yeah i wish i could

1253
00:41:26,150 --> 00:41:23,520
live like that but

1254
00:41:27,270 --> 00:41:26,160
it just there's so many commitments see

1255
00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:27,280
that's the thing and it gets

1256
00:41:32,309 --> 00:41:29,359
into a little bit of a metaphysical

1257
00:41:34,390 --> 00:41:32,319
arena here but the thing is is that

1258
00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:34,400
i think you know and getting back to

1259
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:36,480
even time and the perception of linear

1260
00:41:42,870 --> 00:41:39,520
time i think we are constantly bombarded

1261
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:42,880
with opportunities to look beyond

1262
00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:45,440
the five senses at that deeper reality

1263
00:41:48,790 --> 00:41:47,440
to get beyond the illusion of reality

1264
00:41:50,470 --> 00:41:48,800
which is nothing but our

1265
00:41:52,870 --> 00:41:50,480
conditioning and beliefs and our

1266
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:52,880
perception all of which is

1267
00:41:58,069 --> 00:41:55,920
messed up and and we get those little

1268
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:58,079
glimpses but here's the thing

1269
00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:01,040
how often do you slow down long enough

1270
00:42:03,750 --> 00:42:02,079
to pay attention to

1271
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,760
them when you've got and i'm not just

1272
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:05,760
saying you i mean you you know

1273
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:07,839
the royal you yeah when we're on the

1274
00:42:11,750 --> 00:42:09,920
computer we're on facebook we've got our

1275
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:11,760
faces buried in our cell phones we don't

1276
00:42:15,430 --> 00:42:13,200
even talk to each other

1277
00:42:16,390 --> 00:42:15,440
how do we ever slow down long enough to

1278
00:42:19,750 --> 00:42:16,400
get the

1279
00:42:22,870 --> 00:42:19,760
signals synchronicities um

1280
00:42:24,710 --> 00:42:22,880
the you know intuition even instinct is

1281
00:42:27,589 --> 00:42:24,720
trying to tell you something and i

1282
00:42:29,510 --> 00:42:27,599
really know so many people that blow

1283
00:42:30,150 --> 00:42:29,520
right over all that communication from

1284
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,160
the universe

1285
00:42:34,150 --> 00:42:32,640
because they're focused on getting to

1286
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:34,160
work getting the kids to school

1287
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,920
you know finding something to eat

1288
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:37,440
fighting with their spouse or their

1289
00:42:41,670 --> 00:42:39,280
girlfriend or boy you know

1290
00:42:45,030 --> 00:42:41,680
i think everybody gets those signals but

1291
00:42:46,309 --> 00:42:45,040
not everybody will pay attention true

1292
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,319
there's actually another strange

1293
00:42:50,710 --> 00:42:48,000
phenomenon in your book that people make

1294
00:42:52,390 --> 00:42:50,720
claims to which is uh the time slips

1295
00:42:54,230 --> 00:42:52,400
yeah what are some of the more

1296
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:54,240
interesting cases like the principles of

1297
00:42:57,910 --> 00:42:54,560
st

1298
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:57,920
you know it's funny because the reason

1299
00:43:00,870 --> 00:42:59,839
why we wanted to include that is because

1300
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,880
we were talking about

1301
00:43:04,230 --> 00:43:02,720
missing time and lauren i've written

1302
00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:04,240
about missing time because we both had

1303
00:43:06,950 --> 00:43:06,079
missing time experiences that were very

1304
00:43:09,030 --> 00:43:06,960
similar

1305
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:09,040
where we lost we you know he was with a

1306
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,040
group of people that actually lost

1307
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:13,440
two hours of time together i was myself

1308
00:43:17,910 --> 00:43:15,680
on a freeway in los angeles

1309
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:17,920
so you know i'm a huge fan of jenny

1310
00:43:21,670 --> 00:43:20,000
randall's and the work that she does

1311
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:21,680
she's written some brilliant books her

1312
00:43:24,950 --> 00:43:22,079
book

1313
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:24,960
time storms looks at time slips time

1314
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:27,040
slips time travel time shifts

1315
00:43:32,309 --> 00:43:29,760
time anomalies of the yin yang but a

1316
00:43:35,349 --> 00:43:32,319
time slip is nothing more than

1317
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:35,359
you might be at a particular location or

1318
00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:37,520
you may be out walking or riding a bike

1319
00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:38,640
driving a car

1320
00:43:44,150 --> 00:43:41,920
and suddenly it's as if you're zapped

1321
00:43:46,069 --> 00:43:44,160
into another time frame and it could be

1322
00:43:49,430 --> 00:43:46,079
the past it could be the future

1323
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:49,440
uh it could also happen that you are

1324
00:43:52,710 --> 00:43:52,240
you come out of this sort of disoriented

1325
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:52,720
fog

1326
00:43:56,630 --> 00:43:55,680
and your 500 miles up the road it's 10

1327
00:43:58,069 --> 00:43:56,640
hours later

1328
00:43:59,910 --> 00:43:58,079
but all you were doing was going to the

1329
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,920
corner store which should have taken 10

1330
00:44:02,309 --> 00:44:01,040
minutes so they're like time

1331
00:44:05,190 --> 00:44:02,319
disorienting

1332
00:44:06,550 --> 00:44:05,200
experiences i guess you could say um but

1333
00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:06,560
some of the ones that

1334
00:44:09,910 --> 00:44:08,000
that we looked at occurred in the

1335
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,920
victorian era

1336
00:44:13,190 --> 00:44:11,599
oh gosh let me see if i can remember

1337
00:44:15,190 --> 00:44:13,200
some of the details

1338
00:44:17,030 --> 00:44:15,200
um yeah well consider the most famous

1339
00:44:20,150 --> 00:44:17,040
time slip is the story of

1340
00:44:22,150 --> 00:44:20,160
um two english women that

1341
00:44:24,150 --> 00:44:22,160
apparently had a time slip this is way

1342
00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:24,160
back in 1901 while they were walking

1343
00:44:28,470 --> 00:44:26,880
through the gardens of versailles france

1344
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,480
looking for a path to go to one

1345
00:44:31,829 --> 00:44:30,480
particular place that they wanted to

1346
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:31,839
visit

1347
00:44:35,829 --> 00:44:33,280
uh which was the palace of marie

1348
00:44:36,630 --> 00:44:35,839
antoinette and they both had just the

1349
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:36,640
same feeling

1350
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:39,520
of disorientation which is always

1351
00:44:42,069 --> 00:44:41,599
associated with time slips and i can

1352
00:44:45,190 --> 00:44:42,079
attest

1353
00:44:47,030 --> 00:44:45,200
even that to missing time that right

1354
00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:47,040
before my missing time i had an

1355
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:48,160
incredible

1356
00:44:51,510 --> 00:44:49,839
period of disorientation to the point

1357
00:44:54,309 --> 00:44:51,520
where i couldn't open a door

1358
00:44:56,069 --> 00:44:54,319
the door kept closing on me wow yeah it

1359
00:44:58,790 --> 00:44:56,079
was really freaky

1360
00:44:59,829 --> 00:44:58,800
um so anyway they apparently showed up

1361
00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:59,839
at some

1362
00:45:03,670 --> 00:45:01,920
deserted farmhouse there were people

1363
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:03,680
that they talked to and came in contact

1364
00:45:09,030 --> 00:45:05,920
with that were all dressed very much in

1365
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:09,040
in uh you know victorian type clothing

1366
00:45:13,829 --> 00:45:12,079
and they had conversations

1367
00:45:16,230 --> 00:45:13,839
and then of course when they came out of

1368
00:45:17,829 --> 00:45:16,240
it they really felt like

1369
00:45:19,349 --> 00:45:17,839
you know something and here's the thing

1370
00:45:20,069 --> 00:45:19,359
if it would have just happened to one of

1371
00:45:22,390 --> 00:45:20,079
them

1372
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:22,400
we could easily pass it off as well you

1373
00:45:25,349 --> 00:45:24,160
know maybe she had low blood sugar it

1374
00:45:27,030 --> 00:45:25,359
was just a little yeah

1375
00:45:29,270 --> 00:45:27,040
two people though it happened to two

1376
00:45:31,109 --> 00:45:29,280
people now that's an older story

1377
00:45:32,309 --> 00:45:31,119
for some really interesting newer

1378
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,319
stories i again

1379
00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:34,560
highly suggest jenny randall's book time

1380
00:45:38,309 --> 00:45:36,560
storms because she covers

1381
00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:38,319
a lot of really current cases where

1382
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:39,599
people enter this

1383
00:45:45,750 --> 00:45:43,200
weird electrical fog it could be

1384
00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:45,760
greenish even where there's a lot of

1385
00:45:49,990 --> 00:45:47,040
static a lot of

1386
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:50,000
um electromagnetic anomalies occur

1387
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:51,520
people's watches stop

1388
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,200
if they're in a car the car dies what

1389
00:45:57,109 --> 00:45:55,359
have you in this weird fog

1390
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:57,119
and then when the fog lifts or they come

1391
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:58,480
out the other side

1392
00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:01,599
that time slip has occurred so what is

1393
00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:02,720
up with that because if

1394
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:04,240
you know anybody who knows anything

1395
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:06,000
about the bermuda triangle

1396
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:07,680
yep there's the association with

1397
00:46:11,349 --> 00:46:09,040
electronic fogs

1398
00:46:13,270 --> 00:46:11,359
a lot of ufo cases and that's another

1399
00:46:16,150 --> 00:46:13,280
thing about time slips and missing time

1400
00:46:19,190 --> 00:46:16,160
is there's a lot of association

1401
00:46:19,670 --> 00:46:19,200
with ufos sightings abductions what have

1402
00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:19,680
you

1403
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,240
so it's just some really cool time

1404
00:46:26,390 --> 00:46:23,920
anomaly stuff that

1405
00:46:27,589 --> 00:46:26,400
that's out there already happening to

1406
00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:27,599
people where they could be time

1407
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:29,119
traveling and not really want to do it

1408
00:46:32,870 --> 00:46:30,480
in the first place

1409
00:46:34,390 --> 00:46:32,880
yeah i mean another recent guest nick

1410
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:34,400
redfern he wrote about in his most

1411
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:35,680
recent book the world's worst

1412
00:46:38,950 --> 00:46:38,000
weirdest places uh he talks about the

1413
00:46:40,870 --> 00:46:38,960
bermuda triangle

1414
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:40,880
i mean i'm sure you know he also writes

1415
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:43,280
about uh you know your ideas about

1416
00:46:50,309 --> 00:46:46,960
of these uh possible gateways or these

1417
00:46:53,430 --> 00:46:50,319
portals nick he's awesome and he's

1418
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:53,440
one of the groundbreakers of um when i

1419
00:46:56,309 --> 00:46:53,760
wrote

1420
00:46:57,510 --> 00:46:56,319
my book science which was my first real

1421
00:46:59,430 --> 00:46:57,520
big non-fiction book i

1422
00:47:01,990 --> 00:46:59,440
interviewed him for it we got on the

1423
00:47:03,990 --> 00:47:02,000
conversation of things like tulpas

1424
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:04,000
uh creatures that are literally created

1425
00:47:08,150 --> 00:47:06,079
out of collective consciousness and

1426
00:47:09,670 --> 00:47:08,160
yeah all the multiverse because again at

1427
00:47:13,190 --> 00:47:09,680
the time we were just thinking

1428
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:13,200
of ufos as being you know

1429
00:47:17,270 --> 00:47:16,000
from just venus metal craft yeah oh

1430
00:47:20,870 --> 00:47:17,280
there you go

1431
00:47:22,549 --> 00:47:20,880
yeah so he's crazy a lot of good stories

1432
00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:22,559
that

1433
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,599
yeah and even

1434
00:47:28,950 --> 00:47:27,440
even the the bermuda triangle there is

1435
00:47:31,670 --> 00:47:28,960
that the same

1436
00:47:32,390 --> 00:47:31,680
consistency with that weird green fog it

1437
00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:32,400
seems so

1438
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:35,280
sci-fi yeah but that's what people talk

1439
00:47:39,990 --> 00:47:36,160
about

1440
00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:40,000
research and experiments of uh

1441
00:47:43,589 --> 00:47:42,000
cornell's university's daryl byrne i

1442
00:47:45,750 --> 00:47:43,599
thought that was pretty interesting

1443
00:47:47,750 --> 00:47:45,760
at cornell and ithaca they have managed

1444
00:47:48,549 --> 00:47:47,760
to find a way to manipulate the

1445
00:47:52,549 --> 00:47:48,559
microwave

1446
00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:52,559
the light spectrum

1447
00:47:57,589 --> 00:47:55,760
to cloak two and now three dimensional

1448
00:47:59,829 --> 00:47:57,599
objects and at first they were only able

1449
00:48:02,150 --> 00:47:59,839
to partially cloak them

1450
00:48:03,030 --> 00:48:02,160
but i think recently within the last

1451
00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,040
month or so

1452
00:48:07,109 --> 00:48:05,599
they did succeed in completely cloaking

1453
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:07,119
and we're talking very small

1454
00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:10,319
you know minuscule things but what's

1455
00:48:13,829 --> 00:48:12,160
what that is applied to again and what

1456
00:48:15,829 --> 00:48:13,839
the philadelphia experiment had to do

1457
00:48:18,870 --> 00:48:15,839
with that is the idea of rendering

1458
00:48:21,270 --> 00:48:18,880
uh ships invisible to an enemy radar

1459
00:48:23,430 --> 00:48:21,280
can do that and if you think about where

1460
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:23,440
cloaking came from think back to star

1461
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:24,960
trek you know

1462
00:48:29,990 --> 00:48:28,000
and the cloaking devices and uh god i

1463
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:30,000
think even star wars use that as a

1464
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:30,640
device

1465
00:48:34,390 --> 00:48:33,839
but yeah cornell is doing a lot of cool

1466
00:48:42,870 --> 00:48:34,400
stuff

1467
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:42,880
uh deja vu oh what else quantum physics

1468
00:48:46,470 --> 00:48:45,119
uh putting particles into place at once

1469
00:48:48,870 --> 00:48:46,480
which they were

1470
00:48:49,670 --> 00:48:48,880
the dual slit experiment i'm thinking

1471
00:48:52,069 --> 00:48:49,680
you know

1472
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:52,079
if there's any university in the country

1473
00:48:56,549 --> 00:48:54,240
that is really at the edge of

1474
00:48:57,829 --> 00:48:56,559
of the most cutting edge of science it's

1475
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:57,839
got to be them

1476
00:49:01,510 --> 00:48:59,359
well it's awesome that some of these

1477
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:01,520
more conventional universities are

1478
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:03,119
taking a look at the paranormal stuff

1479
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:05,200
because for a long time they weren't and

1480
00:49:09,109 --> 00:49:06,880
i mean whether you're of the opinion of

1481
00:49:12,309 --> 00:49:09,119
it or not i definitely think there is a

1482
00:49:14,870 --> 00:49:12,319
group of people uh powerful people who

1483
00:49:16,870 --> 00:49:14,880
have some type of knowledge and

1484
00:49:17,270 --> 00:49:16,880
information that we don't have and we're

1485
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:17,280
kind of

1486
00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:20,720
operating without that but it seems like

1487
00:49:25,030 --> 00:49:22,880
there are some really interesting

1488
00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:25,040
experiments going on with some really

1489
00:49:29,349 --> 00:49:27,920
intense results that kind of do show us

1490
00:49:31,109 --> 00:49:29,359
the underlying

1491
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:31,119
rules of the universe that we might not

1492
00:49:34,309 --> 00:49:32,400
have understood before

1493
00:49:36,150 --> 00:49:34,319
absolutely and the thing is like you

1494
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:36,160
said you hit it right on the head

1495
00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:39,040
this is just what we know about yeah so

1496
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:40,960
just like the universities where

1497
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:44,000
they publicly publish their research

1498
00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:46,960
so we can imagine what might be being

1499
00:49:50,230 --> 00:49:47,839
done

1500
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:50,240
under the radar where you have

1501
00:49:53,829 --> 00:49:51,520
universities that are working in

1502
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:53,839
conjunction with darpa and

1503
00:50:02,309 --> 00:49:57,359
saic and other other you know

1504
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:03,589
doing the same research but they're

1505
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:05,839
probably 20 30 years ahead of what we

1506
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:07,599
publicly are aware of yeah

1507
00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:08,880
and that's really frustrating too

1508
00:50:13,109 --> 00:50:10,960
because i think that you know it's like

1509
00:50:14,390 --> 00:50:13,119
we never know if we're getting what's

1510
00:50:16,069 --> 00:50:14,400
happening now or if

1511
00:50:18,790 --> 00:50:16,079
we have to add like 20 years of

1512
00:50:21,030 --> 00:50:18,800
technology to what's coming out exactly

1513
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,040
to get the but the thing is i don't know

1514
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:23,280
if they really had a time travel device

1515
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:26,000
i really think that we would have some

1516
00:50:31,270 --> 00:50:29,280
leaking of you know documents or

1517
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:31,280
pictures and i've never seen anything

1518
00:50:36,150 --> 00:50:34,480
that really convincing i mean how can

1519
00:50:38,069 --> 00:50:36,160
people say well yeah that government can

1520
00:50:39,910 --> 00:50:38,079
keep secrets well no they can't because

1521
00:50:41,349 --> 00:50:39,920
there's always conspiracy theorists

1522
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,359
breathing down their necks

1523
00:50:45,910 --> 00:50:43,520
a time machine that would be the

1524
00:50:47,990 --> 00:50:45,920
ultimate you would have to figure

1525
00:50:48,950 --> 00:50:48,000
somebody would have a picture a video

1526
00:50:51,829 --> 00:50:48,960
some

1527
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:51,839
i don't know diagrams blueprints you

1528
00:50:55,910 --> 00:50:54,079
would think anything

1529
00:50:57,510 --> 00:50:55,920
you know well one of another terrence

1530
00:50:58,230 --> 00:50:57,520
mckenna idea i mean i'm sure it's an

1531
00:51:00,150 --> 00:50:58,240
idea that

1532
00:51:02,069 --> 00:51:00,160
has been around but i heard about it

1533
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:02,079
first from him was the idea of a time

1534
00:51:06,230 --> 00:51:03,440
travel that

1535
00:51:08,230 --> 00:51:06,240
um you know you wouldn't see any

1536
00:51:09,349 --> 00:51:08,240
evidence of it up until the invention of

1537
00:51:11,270 --> 00:51:09,359
the time machine

1538
00:51:12,390 --> 00:51:11,280
and then at that moment you'd see time

1539
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:12,400
machines just popping up

1540
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:14,640
every freaking place because that's as

1541
00:51:18,470 --> 00:51:16,319
far back as you could go

1542
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:18,480
that is an interesting idea and he he

1543
00:51:20,710 --> 00:51:20,000
also kind of theorized that that could

1544
00:51:26,150 --> 00:51:20,720
be

1545
00:51:28,390 --> 00:51:26,160
that was interesting well he says you

1546
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:28,400
know it's a it's a time where it's a new

1547
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:29,839
age of humanity and

1548
00:51:33,190 --> 00:51:32,640
what what would be you know more worth

1549
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:33,200
noting

1550
00:51:37,510 --> 00:51:35,680
than the time branching off into a

1551
00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:37,520
thousand different ways because of this

1552
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:39,440
new found technology i mean

1553
00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:41,920
well that's the multiverse theory and

1554
00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:43,680
that's adding the dimension of time to

1555
00:51:47,510 --> 00:51:45,680
that theory which is just so popular in

1556
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,520
the physics community

1557
00:51:50,710 --> 00:51:48,960
so i mean if you're gonna have alternate

1558
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:50,720
universes you've got to have alternate

1559
00:51:54,390 --> 00:51:52,319
timelines to go with them

1560
00:51:56,870 --> 00:51:54,400
and they can be infinite in number which

1561
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:56,880
is kind of hurt your head to think about

1562
00:52:01,430 --> 00:51:59,520
well you also did write that book 2013.

1563
00:52:02,630 --> 00:52:01,440
um and let me ask you about it just for

1564
00:52:04,470 --> 00:52:02,640
the simple fact that

1565
00:52:06,069 --> 00:52:04,480
in less than two months we can't really

1566
00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:06,079
be asked again you know we're getting

1567
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:06,880
close to it

1568
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:08,880
oh they'll just find a new date to pick

1569
00:52:11,750 --> 00:52:09,920
on true

1570
00:52:13,670 --> 00:52:11,760
true but it is kind of exciting to live

1571
00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:13,680
in a time where i mean there's always

1572
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,680
predictions but very few have as much

1573
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:17,520
weight to them as this mayan prediction

1574
00:52:20,230 --> 00:52:19,200
and the i ching calendar also kind of

1575
00:52:21,829 --> 00:52:20,240
hints at this date

1576
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:21,839
it's an exciting time to live through

1577
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:23,520
even if nothing happens but

1578
00:52:27,430 --> 00:52:25,839
i mean what are your thoughts on

1579
00:52:29,589 --> 00:52:27,440
december 21st 2012

1580
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:29,599
just another day i think for the

1581
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:31,280
majority of people

1582
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,200
it's going to be another day you have to

1583
00:52:37,030 --> 00:52:35,200
figure you know israel may still be

1584
00:52:39,270 --> 00:52:37,040
bombing the gaza strip

1585
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:39,280
unfortunately yeah there'll be poverty

1586
00:52:41,910 --> 00:52:40,240
in somalia

1587
00:52:44,829 --> 00:52:41,920
for most people on the planet it's

1588
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:44,839
another day but for the people that are

1589
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:47,119
aware you've you know you've got the

1590
00:52:49,589 --> 00:52:49,119
three camps you've got the camp that

1591
00:52:50,710 --> 00:52:49,599
says

1592
00:52:53,270 --> 00:52:50,720
nothing's going to happen there's

1593
00:52:55,910 --> 00:52:53,280
nothing to it you've got the camp that

1594
00:52:57,829 --> 00:52:55,920
is more uh the doom and gloom

1595
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:57,839
apocalyptic crowd that it's going to be

1596
00:53:01,589 --> 00:52:58,960
they

1597
00:53:03,109 --> 00:53:01,599
literally misinterpreted mayan mythology

1598
00:53:05,910 --> 00:53:03,119
by adding on

1599
00:53:07,750 --> 00:53:05,920
judeo-christian tradition and they're

1600
00:53:09,270 --> 00:53:07,760
expecting the end of the world okay

1601
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:09,280
they're going to be raptured though so

1602
00:53:14,069 --> 00:53:12,079
it's not going to affect them of course

1603
00:53:16,309 --> 00:53:14,079
and then you have the new age

1604
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:16,319
metaphysical more spiritual camp that

1605
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:18,480
thinks that this is a time of

1606
00:53:24,710 --> 00:53:22,000
ascension uh expansion of consciousness

1607
00:53:26,230 --> 00:53:24,720
activation of d junk dna where we will

1608
00:53:29,030 --> 00:53:26,240
become more capable

1609
00:53:30,950 --> 00:53:29,040
i'll tell you where i fall i fall into

1610
00:53:34,630 --> 00:53:30,960
the novelty theory

1611
00:53:37,030 --> 00:53:34,640
singularity you know the the idea that

1612
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:37,040
time is accelerating because the human

1613
00:53:39,510 --> 00:53:37,920
brain

1614
00:53:41,670 --> 00:53:39,520
is being exposed to more and more

1615
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:41,680
information that it must process

1616
00:53:45,670 --> 00:53:43,040
and determine whether or not it's

1617
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:45,680
important enough to uh you know

1618
00:53:50,790 --> 00:53:48,480
add to the our reality so it feels like

1619
00:53:52,790 --> 00:53:50,800
time is speeding up even though it's not

1620
00:53:54,790 --> 00:53:52,800
and we're at a point where very soon

1621
00:53:56,069 --> 00:53:54,800
technology will overcome our humanity

1622
00:53:59,750 --> 00:53:56,079
where our brains will

1623
00:54:01,990 --> 00:53:59,760
not be able to process the share of

1624
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:02,000
volume of information that is coming at

1625
00:54:05,910 --> 00:54:03,839
us and that's when the moment of

1626
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:05,920
singularity occurs so either our brains

1627
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:08,160
are going to completely shut down

1628
00:54:11,589 --> 00:54:10,000
or they're going to have to somehow

1629
00:54:14,950 --> 00:54:11,599
adapt to this

1630
00:54:16,630 --> 00:54:14,960
new amount of information and i think

1631
00:54:17,990 --> 00:54:16,640
that's what we're leading towards it's

1632
00:54:20,230 --> 00:54:18,000
more of a

1633
00:54:21,670 --> 00:54:20,240
an expansion of the ability of the brain

1634
00:54:25,349 --> 00:54:21,680
the capacity

1635
00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:25,359
of the of what the brain can process

1636
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:27,359
um yeah i would really love that to be

1637
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:29,200
true i mean the way

1638
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,680
i've i've got some friends that you know

1639
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:33,359
look at the dvd collection i have and

1640
00:54:36,549 --> 00:54:34,960
they just roll their eyes and i'm like

1641
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,559
look look i mean

1642
00:54:39,990 --> 00:54:39,119
i kind of think of it as terms of if you

1643
00:54:41,990 --> 00:54:40,000
were in the

1644
00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:42,000
the first day of the renaissance it

1645
00:54:45,829 --> 00:54:44,000
would seem like just another day

1646
00:54:47,270 --> 00:54:45,839
you know right but when you look at that

1647
00:54:49,589 --> 00:54:47,280
period in history you can

1648
00:54:50,710 --> 00:54:49,599
you can find a time a day where it where

1649
00:54:53,190 --> 00:54:50,720
it kind of started

1650
00:54:54,789 --> 00:54:53,200
and i think that yeah i think december

1651
00:54:56,230 --> 00:54:54,799
21st might be

1652
00:54:57,589 --> 00:54:56,240
something like that because we're just

1653
00:54:59,190 --> 00:54:57,599
going to think of it as another day but

1654
00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:59,200
when you look at it maybe 100 years in

1655
00:55:01,910 --> 00:55:00,640
the future you'll be like that was the

1656
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,920
catalyst right there

1657
00:55:05,430 --> 00:55:03,359
agree with you because i'm always saying

1658
00:55:08,950 --> 00:55:05,440
to people there's nothing

1659
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:08,960
there is nothing in the mayan mythology

1660
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:12,319
in their cosmology in their origin

1661
00:55:16,470 --> 00:55:13,200
stories

1662
00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:16,480
there is nothing that says the world is

1663
00:55:20,309 --> 00:55:17,599
going to end

1664
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:20,319
that is not what they say that has been

1665
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:22,160
that is interpretation that has been

1666
00:55:26,630 --> 00:55:23,520
added on over

1667
00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:26,640
last couple of thousand years by western

1668
00:55:29,829 --> 00:55:28,319
you know trying to apply the gregorian

1669
00:55:30,870 --> 00:55:29,839
calendar to their calendar which is

1670
00:55:32,870 --> 00:55:30,880
impossible

1671
00:55:34,309 --> 00:55:32,880
changing dates manipulating forgetting

1672
00:55:34,789 --> 00:55:34,319
about leap year this that and the other

1673
00:55:37,910 --> 00:55:34,799
thing

1674
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:37,920
and then piling on judeo christian or

1675
00:55:42,309 --> 00:55:39,200
western

1676
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:42,319
belief onto a very pagan mythology but

1677
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:43,520
here's the thing

1678
00:55:47,430 --> 00:55:45,760
they did believe in cycles they did

1679
00:55:49,109 --> 00:55:47,440
believe in world ages

1680
00:55:51,430 --> 00:55:49,119
they did believe we are coming to the

1681
00:55:55,030 --> 00:55:51,440
end of one but in their eyes

1682
00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:55,040
it was the end of life as we know it

1683
00:56:00,309 --> 00:55:58,319
and the beginning of life you know a

1684
00:56:02,150 --> 00:56:00,319
paradigm shift which makes me really

1685
00:56:03,670 --> 00:56:02,160
like the idea that a time machine would

1686
00:56:03,990 --> 00:56:03,680
pop up there because then you don't need

1687
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:04,000
to

1688
00:56:07,829 --> 00:56:05,760
keep track of the cycles anymore because

1689
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:07,839
it's totally off the radar you know

1690
00:56:11,190 --> 00:56:09,280
yeah and also i mean a lot of people

1691
00:56:12,870 --> 00:56:11,200
really feel like the shift that's going

1692
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:12,880
to occur is going to open

1693
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:16,000
up some of the doors that have been uh

1694
00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:18,240
limiting and inhibiting us from

1695
00:56:21,829 --> 00:56:19,119
controlling

1696
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:21,839
the the temporal dimension oh that'd be

1697
00:56:25,990 --> 00:56:22,640
great

1698
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:26,000
and even we will go beyond even a

1699
00:56:29,910 --> 00:56:28,240
three-dimensional experience i mean

1700
00:56:30,950 --> 00:56:29,920
there's so much talk in the physics

1701
00:56:34,710 --> 00:56:30,960
community

1702
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:34,720
of hypercubes and fifth dimension and

1703
00:56:40,549 --> 00:56:38,160
beyond sometimes even talk of 22 32

1704
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:40,559
an infinite number of other dimensions

1705
00:56:45,270 --> 00:56:42,319
you know our brains can only perceive

1706
00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:45,280
three so maybe something will force the

1707
00:56:49,349 --> 00:56:46,079
brain to

1708
00:56:50,630 --> 00:56:49,359
adapt to perceiving new spatial and

1709
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:50,640
temporal dimensions

1710
00:56:54,789 --> 00:56:54,000
because we're too primitive or too

1711
00:56:57,750 --> 00:56:54,799
archaic

1712
00:56:59,670 --> 00:56:57,760
right now to continue to be able to

1713
00:57:01,030 --> 00:56:59,680
process all of the information that is

1714
00:57:03,270 --> 00:57:01,040
coming at the brain

1715
00:57:05,030 --> 00:57:03,280
technology is gonna in 10 years

1716
00:57:08,309 --> 00:57:05,040
technology will look like magic

1717
00:57:11,750 --> 00:57:08,319
to those of us now pretty damn cool

1718
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:11,760
you know right we don't keep up in

1719
00:57:15,750 --> 00:57:14,240
in terms of our mind our mental ability

1720
00:57:19,030 --> 00:57:15,760
to deal with this stuff

1721
00:57:21,109 --> 00:57:19,040
we're we're in trouble well and also

1722
00:57:22,390 --> 00:57:21,119
before we go i did want to switch gears

1723
00:57:24,549 --> 00:57:22,400
a little bit and ask you

1724
00:57:26,069 --> 00:57:24,559
about one of your other books the 11 11

1725
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,079
time prompt phenomenon because i have a

1726
00:57:29,829 --> 00:57:28,319
friend who swears by this phenomenon he

1727
00:57:30,789 --> 00:57:29,839
says when he looks at the time or the

1728
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:30,799
odometer

1729
00:57:34,150 --> 00:57:33,359
he sees it's on 11 11 both the last

1730
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:34,160
names of him

1731
00:57:38,069 --> 00:57:36,400
and his wife they both have double l

1732
00:57:41,030 --> 00:57:38,079
which he finds meaning in

1733
00:57:43,030 --> 00:57:41,040
um what do you make of this 11-11 thing

1734
00:57:44,549 --> 00:57:43,040
i never knew it even existed before we

1735
00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:44,559
were asked to write the book that was

1736
00:57:47,030 --> 00:57:45,200
actually

1737
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:47,040
in our publisher which was really cool

1738
00:57:50,710 --> 00:57:48,880
but um

1739
00:57:52,150 --> 00:57:50,720
i i see them all the time i posted

1740
00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:52,160
something on facebook that

1741
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:54,880
my coffee machine the clock won't work

1742
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:56,559
now so every time i look at it it says

1743
00:58:00,309 --> 00:57:59,440
11 11 or 333 which is another time

1744
00:58:02,309 --> 00:58:00,319
prompt that yes

1745
00:58:04,069 --> 00:58:02,319
a lot of people experience but the thing

1746
00:58:05,589 --> 00:58:04,079
about 11 11 is you've got millions of

1747
00:58:07,430 --> 00:58:05,599
people all over the world for the last

1748
00:58:08,549 --> 00:58:07,440
40 50 years because this has gone on for

1749
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:08,559
quite a while

1750
00:58:12,390 --> 00:58:10,640
we see this this number sequence and it

1751
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:12,400
can be on a digital clock it can be on a

1752
00:58:15,990 --> 00:58:12,960
receipt

1753
00:58:17,190 --> 00:58:16,000
whatever a billboard and where

1754
00:58:19,829 --> 00:58:17,200
larry and i were able to make the

1755
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:19,839
connection is that whatever happens on

1756
00:58:25,589 --> 00:58:22,000
december 21st 2012

1757
00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:25,599
next month the winter solstice which was

1758
00:58:29,430 --> 00:58:28,160
critical to the uh mayan you know to

1759
00:58:32,630 --> 00:58:29,440
their um

1760
00:58:34,710 --> 00:58:32,640
world view is said to

1761
00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:34,720
occur the moment the winter solstice

1762
00:58:39,190 --> 00:58:36,640
begins is that 11 11

1763
00:58:41,510 --> 00:58:39,200
greenwich mean time according to the

1764
00:58:42,230 --> 00:58:41,520
naval observatory's atomic clock which

1765
00:58:46,309 --> 00:58:42,240
is the most

1766
00:58:48,950 --> 00:58:46,319
action clock on the planet so

1767
00:58:50,789 --> 00:58:48,960
people feel like the 11 11s are prompts

1768
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:50,799
or pokes like

1769
00:58:54,870 --> 00:58:52,559
little prods from the universe saying

1770
00:58:58,309 --> 00:58:54,880
pay attention get ready

1771
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:58,319
wake up something's coming and that that

1772
00:59:02,390 --> 00:58:59,760
moment

1773
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:02,400
who knows what will happen maybe nothing

1774
00:59:06,470 --> 00:59:04,480
but maybe people's minds and

1775
00:59:08,150 --> 00:59:06,480
their brains will just shift and we'll

1776
00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:08,160
suddenly start seeing the sixth

1777
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:09,520
dimension you know

1778
00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:12,079
that would be the best i mean yeah for

1779
00:59:16,069 --> 00:59:14,160
someone as lazy as myself i would love

1780
00:59:18,309 --> 00:59:16,079
to just wake up one day and like

1781
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:18,319
now i can see crazy [\h__\h] that'd be great

1782
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:20,000
i've ascended

1783
00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:22,559
right but just have to make breakfast

1784
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:23,119
you know

1785
00:59:27,349 --> 00:59:25,440
go to work but no i i think that a lot

1786
00:59:29,750 --> 00:59:27,359
of people feel like they're

1787
00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:29,760
wake-up calls to just get present pay

1788
00:59:32,950 --> 00:59:31,200
attention to what's going on and you

1789
00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:32,960
know what that's not a bad thing to do

1790
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:35,440
anyway regardless of december 21st

1791
00:59:41,510 --> 00:59:38,880
correct yeah well marie you have an

1792
00:59:43,030 --> 00:59:41,520
amazing body of work but i'm sure

1793
00:59:44,549 --> 00:59:43,040
um you're not just kicking back and

1794
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:44,559
waiting for the apocalypse what else are

1795
00:59:47,910 --> 00:59:45,760
you working on

1796
00:59:49,990 --> 00:59:47,920
well larry and i just signed with a new

1797
00:59:50,390 --> 00:59:50,000
publisher hampton roads seraphant to

1798
00:59:52,309 --> 00:59:50,400
write

1799
00:59:55,750 --> 00:59:52,319
the book the grid which is about our

1800
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:55,760
attempt to give a structure to reality

1801
01:00:00,950 --> 00:59:59,040
and um oh gosh we've got a couple of

1802
01:00:03,430 --> 01:00:00,960
screenplays that we've optioned that are

1803
01:00:04,470 --> 01:00:03,440
one is in pre-production called 19 hertz

1804
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:04,480
oh that's interesting

1805
01:00:10,390 --> 01:00:06,160
yeah it's based on our book the

1806
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:10,400
resonance key about the power of sound

1807
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:12,880
just all kinds of stuff yeah next year

1808
01:00:16,710 --> 01:00:14,880
is going to be a busy year

1809
01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:16,720
all right so where can people uh check

1810
01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:18,240
up on you you have obviously you have a

1811
01:00:29,270 --> 01:00:19,200
website

1812
01:00:31,990 --> 01:00:29,280
explorers p-a-r-a paraexplorers.com

1813
01:00:32,549 --> 01:00:32,000
um i'm on facebook marie d jones author

1814
01:00:34,870 --> 01:00:32,559
twitter

1815
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:34,880
linkedin and larry and i have a facebook

1816
01:00:38,870 --> 01:00:36,960
page for pear explorers so

1817
01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:38,880
we're everywhere you gotta have it all

1818
01:00:44,069 --> 01:00:42,079
these days i know

1819
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:44,079
marie it's been an amazing conversation

1820
01:00:48,470 --> 01:00:46,079
i really loved it

1821
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:48,480
thank you yeah i i wish you the best of

1822
01:00:51,990 --> 01:00:50,400
luck hopefully we can talk again uh when

1823
01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:52,000
your new book comes out the grid sounds

1824
01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:53,920
amazing very matrixy which i'm really

1825
01:00:57,670 --> 01:00:54,960
into

1826
01:00:59,349 --> 01:00:57,680
absolutely well hey people check out

1827
01:01:01,270 --> 01:00:59,359
this book is from the future and all of

1828
01:01:01,990 --> 01:01:01,280
marie's books i'm sure something will

1829
01:01:03,670 --> 01:01:02,000
interest you

1830
01:01:05,670 --> 01:01:03,680
and again it's been a real pleasure

1831
01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:05,680
thanks oh thank you so much

1832
01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:08,480
all right enjoy your day you too there

1833
01:01:12,789 --> 01:01:10,000
it is higher side chatters

1834
01:01:13,670 --> 01:01:12,799
miss marie d jones a real sweetheart and

1835
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:13,680
a great author

1836
01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:15,200
thanks again for listening everybody

1837
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:17,520
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1842
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1844
01:01:31,190 --> 01:01:29,760
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1845
01:01:31,910 --> 01:01:31,200
know the shirts are great the prints are

1846
01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:31,920
nice

1847
01:01:34,789 --> 01:01:33,520
buying one helps keep the roof over my

1848
01:01:36,069 --> 01:01:34,799
head and the dick's out of my mouth so

1849
01:01:38,789 --> 01:01:36,079
it's a real good cause

1850
01:01:39,510 --> 01:01:38,799
here's a magical opus from bromello and

1851
01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:39,520
friends

1852
01:01:42,789 --> 01:01:41,760
they keep pressing on me and they do

1853
01:01:59,670 --> 01:01:42,799
don't they

1854
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:02,630
they keep pressing on me they keep

1855
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:04,319
pressing on me

1856
01:02:11,910 --> 01:02:08,720
these financial insecurities

1857
01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:11,920
if it's the fbi the tsa subway

1858
01:02:15,109 --> 01:02:12,559
commission

1859
01:02:17,670 --> 01:02:15,119
we don't play they just trying to take

1860
01:02:20,789 --> 01:02:17,680
our rights

1861
01:02:21,349 --> 01:02:20,799
a shooting here shooting there somebody

1862
01:02:24,549 --> 01:02:21,359
dead

1863
01:02:28,150 --> 01:02:24,559
everywhere and this is supposed to

1864
01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:28,160
be all right they keep pressing on me

1865
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:50,870
these financials

1866
01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:54,069
i know an oppressor when i see one on

1867
01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:55,119
the move

1868
01:02:58,150 --> 01:02:57,680
they take what you're having and they

1869
01:03:05,910 --> 01:02:58,160
make

1870
01:03:13,589 --> 01:03:10,549
these financial insecurities they

1871
01:03:14,549 --> 01:03:13,599
keep pressing on me they keep pressing

1872
01:03:42,829 --> 01:03:14,559
on me

1873
01:03:42,839 --> 01:03:56,549
is